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The 464th Bomb Group also flew B-24 Liberators with the 55th Wing of the 15th Army Air Force.  We in the 485th Bomb Group flew the same missions as did they, enjoyed the same results, suffered similar losses.  Their site presented by Webmaster Wendy Butler, is an excellent site that will add much to your understanding of that big event, WWII.  You can move directly from my site to either 464th or 485th., and back.


A bunch of us, in a Salt Lake City bar, posed one night for an itinerant photographer. I know who was there, though some names escape me now. There were 4 new, 2nd Lieutenants, all pilots, with their wives. But I know there were Jack and Audie Glidden, and then Rosie & Hal Wilder. Of the 4 men, only Hal survived his missions. After all these years, I still find that hard to accept. They were really great guys, and they never had a life.


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How can there be anything left to say about that War.  And yet, it was the biggest event in our lives.  It was the defining factor in our lives.  It determined, largely, what we might become, and of course, for many of us, how long we might live.  It set the tenor of events for the rest of the century.    Here I am, in the year 2006, almost 88 years old. But 75% of my College classmates died before it was over.  I simply cannot go ahead with this book without paying some obeisance to World War II.
First of all, it was an unnecessary war.  In 1938, had Britain’s Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, had the moral courage to say “NO” when Hitler wanted just a bit more of his neighbors territory, it might all have been avoided.  But Chamberlain caved in, to avoid War.  He caved in to threats and blackmail.  This dismayed the weaker neighbors, and encouraged  Hitler, and history tells the rest.
At the time, most of us hoped we might be able to stay out of it, “Let those dumb Europeans beat each other up again!” and most of our leaders were preaching PEACE.  Even Lindy, Charles Lindberg, our hero, favored Adolf Hitler.  The great depression was still with us.  In June of ’41, as I left college, national unemployment was still at 25%, with pockets of worse in cities.  FDR needed a distraction, and laid a foundation with Lend Lease of War material.
But when Japan hit Pearl Harbor, the lines of volunteers at recruiting stations reached around the block.  PEACE had become a dirty word.
Having seen what war does to the land in which it is fought, my prayer now is that we will never wait until we must fight in our own land.  I’m afraid that is what these terrorists are leading us to do.   I know I’m being selfish, but if any women and children are to be put at risk, I hope it’s not our women and children.  If any body’s infrastructure and economy is going down to destruction, I hope it’s not ours.  The United States is the only country that has ever fought on someone else’s land, then departed without collecting enormous ransom.  We don’t practice domination of others, but we do ask that others recognize the rights of others, and occasionally  we fight for them.



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